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Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 11/4/1953
... matches that of Reg Item 4158, photo of No. 40, by John Webster...John Webster... that of Reg Item 4158, photo of No. 40, by John Webster and assumed ...Yields information about the interior of a bogie tram saloon door and the PMTT logo that was etched onto the glass of the doorBlack and white digital print from a scan of a donated negative of a the Prahran and Malvern Tramways Trust (PMTT) etched logo on saloon internal sliding door - most likely a bogie tram. Black and White print made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Image rescanned from copy neg and updated 31/5/2020. See On this basis, the envelope and marking matches that of Reg Item 4158, photo of No. 40, by John Webster and assumed taken on the same day as Item 4157, 4158, 4168, 4178 - 11/4/1953. Contained within Envelope No. 34.On left hand side of the negative in ink is "EI 37".tramways, trams, pmtt, doors -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... . Photograph of John Webster, 21-8-1955. See Reg, Item 4228. Shows...John Webster...&W print of donated negative John Webster ...Yields information about the appearance of an unnumbered Geelong tram (28) in the depot and the step detailsBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative of part of Geelong 28 sitting in front of the depot shed. Photograph of John Webster, 21-8-1955. See Reg, Item 4228. Shows the step, safety screen and car body details. Photographed at the Geelong Depot. Reference to Reg Item 4231 for car number details, see Reg Item 4228 for the other series of three photos. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "EI 8"tramways, trams, geelong, depot, tramcar bodies, tram 28 -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... in the background. Tram has the destination of Each Photographed by John...John Webster... the destination of Each Photographed by John Webster, 21/8/1955, assumed ...Yields information about the appearance of Geelong No. 6 in Moorabool St and background buildingsBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative of Geelong No. 16 at the corner of Moorabool and Ryrie St. Geelong. Has the Bank of New South Wales building in the background. Tram has the destination of Each Photographed by John Webster, 21/8/1955, assumed date given other photographs. Safety Zone signs on either side of the tramcar, lady with a pram and the bar lights are shown. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "DB 11"tramways, trams, geelong, moorabool st, ryrie st, safety zone, tram 16 -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 11/4/1953
... matches that of Reg Item 4158, photo of No. 40, by John Webster...John Webster..., by John Webster and assumed taken on the same day as Item 4157 ...Yields information about the Bucks Head Hotel and demonstrates the way the signals were set in Bridge St for either the Mt Pleasant or Victoria St routesBlack and digital white print from a scan of a donated negative of a driver leaning out from a single trucker to set the switch on the signal for either the Victoria St or Mt Pleasant routes. Has the Bucks Head Hotel in the background. Shows the pole the signal controller or switch was mounted on. Black and White print made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Image rescanned from copy neg and updated 31/5/2020. See On this basis, the envelope and marking matches that of Reg Item 4158, photo of No. 40, by John Webster and assumed taken on the same day as Item 4157, 4158, 4168, 4178 - 11/4/1953. Contained within Envelope No. 33.On left hand side of the negative in ink is "EI 35".tramways, trams, sturt st, grenville st, signals, bridge st -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 11/4/1953
... that of Reg Item 4158, photo of No. 40, by John Webster and assumed...John Webster..., photo of No. 40, by John Webster and assumed taken on the same ...Yields information about Ballarat No. 38 in the early 1950's and demonstrates the loading of prams onto tramsBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing the rear end of No. 38 at the Mt Pleasant terminus. Has the Mt Pleasant Terminus Milk bar in the background with the Robur Tea sign, Barkly St. On the left hand edge of the photo has a crewman leaning forward to lift a pram into the tram and behind the tram can be seen another pram. Black and White print made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Image rescanned from copy neg and updated 31/5/2020. See On this basis, the envelope and marking matches that of Reg Item 4158, photo of No. 40, by John Webster and assumed taken on the same day as Item 4157, 4158, 4168, 4178 - 11/4/1953. Contained within Envelope No. 30.On left hand side of the negative in ink is "CR 13".tramways, trams, mt pleasant, barkly st, prams, tram 38 -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 11/4/1953
... , by John Webster and assumed taken on the same day as Item 4157...John Webster..., by John Webster and assumed taken on the same day as Item 4157 ...Yields information about Ballarat No. 39 and the street scene at the corner of Sturt and Lydiard St in 1953 and Holden Motor carsBlack and white digital print from a scan of a donated negative bogie tram No. 39 in Sturt St with the intersection of Grenville Street behind. In the rear are the buildings on the south west corner of the corner - featuring Mc Nultys Dry cleaning, a milk bar and grill room next door and Paterson's in the background. Note the Holden's (FJ's ?) parked with the rear into the kerbs. Black and White print made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Image rescanned from copy neg and updated 31/5/2020. See On this basis, the envelope and marking matches that of Reg Item 4158, photo of No. 40, by John Webster and assumed taken on the same day as Item 4157, 4158, 4168, 4178 - 11/4/1953. Contained within Envelope No. 31.On left hand side of the negative in ink is "EI 36".tramways, trams, sturt st, grenville st, tram 39 -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster.... Photograph B&W print of donated negative John Webster ...Yields information about the appearance of a 22E maximum traction truck on a Geelong Bogie TramBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing the Maximum Traction 22E truck of a bogie tram, parked in the depot area. Assumed photo taken on the same day as the others - 21-8-1955, shows the Builders Plate and the SEC logo. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "EH 34"tramways, trams, geelong, depot, tramcar bodies, 22e trucks, sec -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... and image updated. Photograph B&W print of donated negative John ...Yields information about the appearance of the Geelong Powerhouse and Depot mid 1950's prior to closureBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing the inside view of the depot exit to the streets with a set of gates closed. This is the internal set of gates. See Reg Item 4206 for the external view. Assumed photo taken on the same day as the others - 21-8-1955. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "EI 11"tramways, trams, geelong, depot -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... negative John Webster ...Yields information about the appearance of the Geelong Powerhouse and Depot mid 1950's prior to closureBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing the inside view of the depot looking inwards from the exit with the Scrubber tram or Track Cleaner, Trams 21 and 40 and one other on the depot fan. Shows the trackwork fan and the overhead details. Assumed photo taken on the same day as the others - 21-8-1955. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "EI 5"tramways, trams, geelong, depot, tram scrubber, tram 21, tram 40 -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster.... Photograph B&W print of donated negative John Webster ...Yields information about the appearance of the appearance of the SEC logos on Geelong trams in 1955Black and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing the SEC logo on the side of a single trucker tram, can just see the blinds. Assumed photo taken on the same day as the others - 21-8-1955. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "EI 1"tramways, trams, geelong, tramcars -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster.... Photograph B&W print of donated negative John Webster ...Yields information about the appearance of the appearance of the SEC tram stop equipment at the corner of Ryrie and Moorabool StreetsBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing the signage at the tram stop in Ryrie St at the corner of Ryrie and Moorabool Streets Geelong. Shows the End of Section, pole banding, Cars Stop Here Sign and a section isolator switch box. Has the Australian and New Zealand Bank Limited, L. N. Hill Estate Agent, Wrays Furs and Bags and F.H.Wray Building in the background. Alongside the ANZ bank building is a number of potential passengers, ladies and gents in overcoats. Assumed photo taken on the same day as the others - 21-8-1955. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "DB12"tramways, trams, geelong, tram stops, moorabool st, ryrie st -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster.... Photograph B&W print of donated negative John Webster ...Yields information about the appearance of the appearance of the Geelong tramway system, two of its trams in Ryrie St GeelongBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing trams 7 and 39 and one other tram in Ryrie St at the corner with Moorabool Street. Has the National Mutual Life Association and Geelong Gas Co. buildings in the background and a few cars on the street. Assumed photo taken on the same day as the others - 21-8-1955. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "EI 15"tramways, trams, geelong, tram stops, moorabool st, tram 7, tram 39 -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... of donated negative John Webster ...Yields information about the appearance of the appearance of the Bar Traffic light at the corner of Ryrie and Moorabool Streets and two trams in the backgroundBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing trams 17 and 10 in Ryrie St at the corner with Moorabool Street. Has the National Mutual Life Association and Geelong Gas Co. buildings and the ANZ Bank in the background and a number of cars in the street. Shows in detail the traffic bar lights and overhead pole and bracket arm details at the intersection. Assumed photo taken on the same day as the others - 21-8-1955. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "EI 13"tramways, trams, geelong, tram stops, ryrie st, traffic lights, overhead, tram 17, tram 10 -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... and image updated. Photograph B&W print of donated negative John ...Yields information about the appearance of the support systems used in one location, at least for the twin trolley wireBlack and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing an overhead suspension arrangement on the trolley wire in Geelong - twin trolley wire, type of suspension system. Assumed photo taken on the same day as the others - 21-8-1955. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "EI 14"tramways, trams, geelong, overhead, trolley wire -
Ballarat Tramway Museum
Photograph - B&W print of donated negative, John Webster, 21/08/1955 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster.... Photograph B&W print of donated negative John Webster ...Black and white digital print from scan of a donated negative showing the overhead and pole arrangements in Ryrie St near the intersection with Moorabool St. Shows the bracket arms, isolators, overhead. Has the National Mutual, ANZ and Bank of NSW in the background. Assumed photo taken on the same day as the others - 21-8-1955. Black and White prints made from scan of negative. Original Negative stored with Negatives. Negative scanned at hi res 4/6/2020 and image updated.On left hand side of the negatives in ink is "EI 14"tramways, trams, geelong, overhead, trolley wire, ryrie st -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide, John Webster, 19/04/1960 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... John Webster ...Colour slide, Kodak, white cardboard of the Hawthorn Tram depot from Wallen Road looking into the depot fan and sheds. Has a man in white jacket sweeping? the track. Shows the stairs to the first floor.Hand writing on rear in ink "19-4-60, Depots, Hawthorn Tram Depot"trams, tramways, hawthorn depot, wallen rd -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide, John Webster, 10/11/1961 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... in Slide dated 10-11-1961 Slide John Webster ...Colour slide, Kodak, white cardboard of MMTB Scrubber tram No. 8 in Slide dated 10-11-1961Hand writing on rear in ink "10-11-61, Service Stock Service Stock No. 8"trams, tramways, scrubber tram, work trams, tram 8 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide, John Webster, 10/11/1961 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... in the photo remains. Slide dated 13-2-1961. Slide John Webster ...Colour slide, Kodak, white cardboard of MMTB Freight tram No. 19 in Wallen Road, Hawthorn, on the west side of the existing depot. The house in the photo remains. Slide dated 13-2-1961.Hand writing on rear in ink "13-2-61, Tram No. 19"trams, tramways, freight tram, wallen rd, work trams, tram 19 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide - Set of 2, John Webster, 14/06/1960 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster..., to Burwood Road. Slides dated 14-6-1960. Slide Set of 2 John ...Set of two Colour slides, Kodak, white cardboard of trams at the intersection of Burwood Road and Church St Hawthorn. .1 - Tram 320 - route 48, North Balwyn turning into Church St from Hawthorn Bridge or Bridge Road. .2 - Tram 249, showing route 28, turning into Burwood Road, to Burwood Road. Slides dated 14-6-1960.Hand writing on rear in ink .1 - "14-6-60 - 320 - Tram entering Church St Hawthorn on way to North Balwyn or Mont Albert" .2 - "14-6-60 - Tram 249 entering Burwood Rd Hawthorn"trams, tramways, w2 class, burwood rd, hawthorn, church st, route 48, route 28, north balwyn, tram 320, tram 249 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide, John Webster, 28/05/1960 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... John Webster ...Colour slide, Kodak, white cardboard of Tram 557 waiting on passing loop, Riversdale Road, Wattle Park, outbound to Wattle Park, Elgar Road, route 70/ Has adverts for Coca Cola, 3AW. Also has an Auxiliary board - Football? There is a fire hydrant in the view and the tram stop sign. Slide dated 28-5-1960.Hand writing on rear in ink "28-5-60- Track - Tram 557 waiting on passing loop, Riversdale Road, Wattle Park, Melbourne Vic"trams, tramways, w2 class, wattle park, riversdale rd, route 70, tram 557 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide, John Webster, 9/03/1960 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... and ? Slide dated 9-3-1960. Slide John Webster ...Colour slide, Kodak, white cardboard of Tram 823, in Riversdale Road, Hawthorn with the destination of Burwood Route 74. Tram has adverts for Chateau Taundra Brandy and ? Slide dated 9-3-1960.Hand writing on rear in ink "9-3-60- Track - Tram 823 Riversdale Road Melbourne"trams, tramways, riversdale rd, burwood, route 74, w5 class, tram 823 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide, John Webster, 7/04/1960 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... for the Bank of NSW, Slide dated 7-4-1960. Slide John Webster ...Colour slide, Kodak, white cardboard of Tram SW6 876 inbound in Swan St Richmond / Burnley with the Burnley ? Gardens in the background. Has adverts for White Crow Sauce, and two different ones for the Bank of NSW, Slide dated 7-4-1960.Hand writing on rear in ink "7-4-60 - Tram 876 Swan St Burnley Vic"trams, tramways, swan st, route 74, sw6 class, burnley, tram 876 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide, John Webster, 15/03/1960 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster...-60. Slide John Webster ...Colour slide, Kodak, white cardboard of Tram W2 357, with the number above the headlight, route 69, St Kilda Beach via Balaclava in Glenferrie Road Malvern. Has advert for White Horse Whiskey. Slide dated 15-3-60.Hand writing on rear in ink "15-3-60 - Tram 357, number raised, Glenferrie Road, Malvern Vic>"trams, tramways, st kilda beach, route 69, w2 class, glenferrie rd, tram 357 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide, John Webster, 5/04/1960 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... and the Australasian Post. Slide dated 5-4-60. Slide John Webster ...Colour slide, Kodak, white cardboard of tram SW6 918, in Burke Road, Gardiner after turning from Malvern Road, route 7, Camberwell. In the background are the shops since removed advertising Robur tea and the Herald and the Australasian Post. Slide dated 5-4-60.Hand writing on rear in ink "5-4-60 tram 918 Burke Road Gardiner Victoria"trams, tramways, sw6 class, camberwell, burke rd, route 7, gardiner, tram 918 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide - Set of 2, John Webster, 14/06/1960 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... dated Slide Set of 2 John Webster ...Set of two Colour slides Kodak, white cardboard of trams: .1 - an SW6 (route 42) car descending the Barkers Road hill through the cutting towards Victoria Bridge over the Yarra river, Has the Vickers Ruwolt factor in the background and the city skyline. .2 - SW6 893 (City Route 42), crossing the Victoria Bridge after leaving the Barkers Road cutting. Shows the overhead support structure on the bridge. Slide datedHand writing on rear in ink "14-6-60 - Retrieving a trolley pole Church St Hawthorn."trams, tramways, route 42, barkers road, sw6 class, bridges, victoria bridge, tram 893 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide, John Webster, 14/06/1960 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... newspaper cutting following the death of a driver. Slide John ...Colour slide, Kodak, white cardboard of trams W5 725 (North Balwyn) and W2 408 (Spencer St), both route 48 at the intersection of Church St, Burwood Road and Bridge Road Hawthorn with the driver? of 725 getting on the roof to retrieve a trolley pole (with wheel) that cant be positioned because of the overhead span wire. Note the street light behind the tram. 725 has an advert for Penfolds Wine. Slide dated 14-6-60. See Reg Items 4361 for the Chairman Robert Risson on the roof of a tram and 3973 for a related newspaper cutting following the death of a driver.Hand writing on rear in ink "14-6-60 - Retrieving a trolley pole Church St Hawthorn."trams, tramways, route 48, north balwyn, trolley poles, church st, burwood rd, w2 class, w5 class, tram 725, tram 408 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide - Set of 2, John Webster, 21/07/1959 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster.... Slide Set of 2 John Webster ...Set of two Colour slides, Kodak, white cardboard of trams of trams at the Victoria St / Swanston St shunt. 21-7-59. .1 - W2 340 showing East Malvern Darling road opposite the signal box followed by W2 showing route 4. Has a large number of men and school boys at the stop. In the view is a "No Entry" sign. In the background is the Ansett ANA building and a building advertising Havelock Tobacco. The tram has a Pimms No. 1 advert. .2 - W2's 550 (with a Castrol sign), 340 - as above and 358 (route 8, Toorak - Glenferrie Road) in the Victoria St shunting area. Has the Army hall behind the trams.Hand writing on rear in ink; "21-7-59 - KFB2 - TRACK - KEV - Swanston St near Victoria St Melbourne" "21-7-59 - KFB3 - TRACK - KEV - Trams in Victoria St Melbourne" Both slides have the speed and the f reading on the left hand side.trams, tramways, victoria st, swanston st, signal box, route 4, route 8, route 4d, east malvern, tram 550, tram 358, tram 340 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide - Set of 4, John Webster, 16/11/1959 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... that was under the viaduct. Slide Set of 4 John Webster ...Set of four Colour slides, Kodak, white cardboard of trams using the Flinders St overpass of King St, 16-11-59. .1 - W2 538 descending the temporary track over King St as part of the first stage of construction. Tram has the destination of East Kew Route 40. .2 - ditto at the base of the bridge. Tram has adverts for Uncle Toby's Oats, .3 - W5 725 entering the temporary track near Queen St. Tram has destination of Spencer St, route 48 and adverts for 3AW, Pimms No. 1 and Penfolds Wine. On the far right is a MMTB Mk III bus to Kew - Earl St. .4 - ditto with the Yarra Family Hotel in the background. Note the tram stop sign. .In the background are adverts for Penfolds Wines, Bushels, the Flinders St viaduct, Nestles Milk, Girlings Store and the Cafe / Milk bar that was under the viaduct.Hand writing on rear in ink; .1 - 16-11-59 - Melbourne Vic. .2 - ditto ..3 and .4 - 16-11-59 Tram 725 entering temporary track in Flinders St Melbourne Vic.trams, tramways, trackwork, flinders st, king st, track construction, bridges, w2 class, east kew, route 40, w5 class, route 48, tram stops, tram 538, tram 725 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide - Set of 4, John Webster, 14/12/1959 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... Bros, Store. Slide Set of 4 John Webster ...Set of four Colour slides, Kodak, white cardboard, .4 brown cardboard of trams using the Flinders St overpass of King St, 14-12-1959 .1 - SW6 854 at the top of the new bridge. .2 - SW6 854 at the bottom of the new bridge, has destination of Hawthorn route 27, and adverts for Biro pens, Lindeman's sherry, Knights Jewellery and KSP ? .3 - SW6 854 trailing photo with William St, nearing the intersection with William St. with the Yarra Family Hotel and a shop selling Oysters and Crayfish. .4 - Photo showing a W2 and W5? climbing the bridge. Note the overhead has been set up for a junction. In the background are adverts for Penfolds Wines, Bushels, the Flinders St viaduct, Nestles Milk, Girlings, Barrow Bros, Store.Hand writing on rear in ink; .1 - 14-12-59 - KFL2 - Flinders St flyover, Melbourne Vic. .2 - 14-12-59 - KFL2a - Trams coming over the Flinders St flyover, Melbourne Vic. .3 - 14-12-59 - KFL3 - temporary track during building of the Flinders St flyover, Melbourne. .4 - 14-12-59 - KFL3a - Flinders St flyover, Melbourne Vic.trams, tramways, trackwork, flinders st, king st, track construction, bridges, sw6 class, hawthorn, route 27, tram 854 -
Melbourne Tram Museum
Slide - Set of 2, John Webster, 21/07/1959 12:00:00 AM
... John Webster... and Penfolds Wines signs in the background. Slide Set of 2 John Webster ...Set of two Colour slides, Kodak, white cardboard of trams of the construction of the Flinders St overpass over King St from the railway viaduct over Spencer St, looking east. Shows the temporary track on the south side of the bridge and the large car park under construction from the former cool stores on this site. Also shows the former track into Spencer St. Note the cross over at the base of the bridge. .1 - possibly 357 running a route 27 to Spencer St. Has the Great Southern Hotel on the left side. .2 - similar photo taken from the viaduct, further along - has the Bushels and Penfolds Wines signs in the background.Hand writing on rear in ink; .1 and .2 - "2-4-60 - Tracks - Flinders St Melbourne" Both slides have the speed and the f reading on the left hand side.trams, tramways, trackwork, flinders st, king st, track construction, bridges, w2 class, route 27, tram 357?