Back Row (L-R): Mr Thomas, Mr Trethewy, Mr Edwards, Mrs Hermans, Mr Sinclair, Mr Rintoul, Mr Smythe Middle Row (L-R):, Mr Philips, Mr Johnson, Mr Tong, Miss Charles, Miss Hiatt, Mrs Berriman, Mrs Cox, Mr Collinson, Mr Robertson, Mr Eddy Front Row (L-R): Mrs Menkins, Mr Ronan, Miss Williams, Mr Shine, Mr Myer (Headmaster), Miss Service, Mr O’Connor, Mrs Burt, Mr Berge, Miss Maxwell Local Eltham resident Joan Castledine attended Macleod High School in 1957. Miss Maxwell (end of front row) lived at 82 Bible Street, Eltham at the top of the hill in 1980. This was the former Taylor family residence , Sunnybrook, built c.1895."Macleod High School Staff 1957" in ink at top edge of photo. Names of staff written in ink on reverse of photo1957, groups, joan castledine collection, macleod high school, miss charles, miss hiatt, miss maxwell, miss service, miss williams, mr berge, mr collinson, mr eddy, mr edwards, mr johnson, mr myer, mr o’connor, mr philips, mr rintoul, mr robertson, mr ronan, mr shine, mr sinclair, mr smythe, mr thomas, mr tong, mr trethewy, mrs berriman, mrs burt, mrs cox, mrs hermans, mrs menkins, staff

Photograph of the Cornish family, back row L-R Dick, Bob, Fanny, Dan, Tom, Jack Ben. front Harry, Richard (dad), Fred, Maria (mum), Sam.Large original sepia photograph of Cornish family, 4 men 1 woman holding book, seated. 6 men 1 woman with flowers, standing.On back: "Cornish family"cornish family

Coloured photograph of the 1987 Netball - Grade 4. The girls are wearing yellow Golden Square t shirts and dark blue skirts. The girl in the centre of the front row is holding a netball. The names of the girls are:- Back Row (L - R) Katrina Caldwell, Joanna White, Clare Baxter, Angie Phelan, Rebekah Boschert. Front Row (L - R) Maree Long, Tonya McNamara, Rachael McEwan.education, primary, golden square laurel st p.s., golden square laurel street p.s. collection - photograph 1987 netball - grade 4, katrina caldwell, joanna white, clare baxter, angie phelan, rebekah boschert, maree long, tonya mcnamara, rachael mcewan

Black and white photograph of the musical ensemble for the school’s production of The Mikado. BACK ROW L-R: Poo Bah - Tony Sutherland, The Mikado - Mr. Wilson, Katisha - Vicki Rooke, Ko-ko - Mr.Hastings, Pish Tush - Stephen Parnell FRONT ROW L-R: Pitti Sing - Diane Peters, Yum Yum - Pamela Stoneman, Nanki Poo - Greg Evans, Peep Bo - Lynn Horkingsmchs musical production

David Gordon Collection. (L-R) Back row: Jack Clark, Frank Cousins, George Foers, Wattie Corrie, Dick Yates. Middle row: MR. Whittaker, Alf Riley, George Harwood, Jack May, Ernie Bock, Joe Renshaw. Front row: William Radnell, Jack Patterson, William Riley, Jack Bock, Jack Cousins, Chas Nelson. At rear: H. Olsen, Reuben Cox, William Radnell (Snr).

Written in the Melbourne "ARGUS" newspaper on the 17th February 1941 under "COUNTRY SPORTS - TENNIS". In the B Grade contests for the Norman Grills Cup Learmonth No. 2 (E. Blain, J. Blain), W. McIntyre, L. Hucker, The Misses M. Ryan, D. Grills, J. Thomas and D. Dean d. Garibaldi. These players were all from the Learmonth and Weatherboard districts.A sepia photo on cardboard backing 12 x 9 1/2 inches. The photo itself is 7 1/2 x 5 3/4 inches in a landscape shape. There are 5 men and four women tennis players, all holding tennis rackets with a Premiership Cup at their feet.Learmonth No. 2 Country Week Tennis Team. Winners Season 1941. Names L-R Back row. L. Hucker (Vic, Capt.), W. McIntyre (Weatherboard), L. Rasdell, E. Blain. L-R Front row. Miss D. Dean (Mrs Toleman), Miss J. Thomas (Mrs Lyttle. Weatherboard), J. Blain (Capt.), Miss D. Grills (Mrs David Baird), Miss M. Ryan (Mrs Harrison. Weatherboard). Photographer - Thornton, Richards & Co, Ballarat.learmonth. tennis team, 1941, hucker, mcintyre, rasdell. blain, dean, thomas, grills, ryan

BHS CollectionBendigo Advertiser '' the way we were'' from Monday, January 20, 2003. Politics: Korong Shire councillors and officers on February 8, 1900. Back row from left: E.E. Hawkins, J.R. Gray (assistant secretary), Cr. R. Kennedy. Middle row: Cr. T. Tunstall, Cr. J. McKechnie, Cr. T. Morphet, Cr. A. Ennis. Front row: Cr. R. Redwood, S. Rinder (secretary), Cr. J.R. Gray 9president), Cr. J. Catto, Cr. D. Chalmers.newspaper, bendigo advertiser, the way we were

The Northern District School of Nursing opened in 1950 to address the issues around nurse recruitment, training and education that had previously been hospital based. The residential school was to provide theoretical and in-house education and practical training over three years. The students would also receive practical hands-on training in the wards of associated hospitals. The Northern District School of Nursing operated from Lister House, Rowan Street, Bendigo. It was the first independent school of nursing in Victoria and continued until it closed in 1989.School 59 27 Female Nurses are in uniform and 2 males. Three rows, the front row seated and the second and third row standing. On the rear of Photo: Back Row L-R: R. Baker, J. Thompson, C.Ashman, A. Hassett, B. McMaster, G. Hooton, M. Ellis, J. Lingham, M. Harris. Middle Row L-R: L. Dunn, J. Drummond, J. Bursill, J. Tasker, M. Larmour, D. Boston, W. Epps, L. Rowe, A Dalton, W. Millar, E. 'den Brinker. Front Row L-R: S. Goodear, E. Barich, K. Walker, ? , B. Boyd, ? , A Letcher, M. Dalrymple, L. Stapleton.nurse training, ndsn, lister house, school 59

Photocopy image, 9 students standing in doorway. Label reads ' Golden Square Primary School Grade 6 scholarship winners 1955. All except Christina Bailey attended Laurel St. Back row L-R Ron Jenkins, Dennis Waugh, Graeme Rooke, Gary Warne, Front row L-R, Glenys Mumford, Barbara Fithall, Pamela Banfield, Wendy Burt, Christine Bailey ( Maple St. RTC)bendigo, education, golden square primary school

Bendigo East Swimmers 1986 L to R fourth Row Rear: Peter Dalby, Ian Jackson, Third Row: Jennifer Horwarth, Name missing, Shannon Parker, Alison Masters, Danielle Horwarth Second Row: Colin Milner, Travis Mitchell, Val Campbell (coach), Cindy Reaby, Kelly Mitchell, Amanda Parrinson Front row: John Gretrith, Michelle Milner, Penny Reaby, Gavin Martin, Cathy Milner

The photograph is of members of the Governing Council of Greek Women in Melbourne in 1917. A number of the women were from Ithaca. The organisation was created to offer social interaction for Greek women who had settled in Australia in the early years of the twentieth century and was part of the Greek Orthodox Community of Melbourne and Victoria. Back row L-R: Mrs. A Raftopoulou, Miss Sigala, Mrs. E. Peppa. Middle row L-R: Miss E. Nomikou, Mrs. K. Kyriazopoulou, (President), Mrs. K Mavrokefalou (Vice-president), Mrs. N. Mari. Front: Mrs. B. Zografou. A black and white portrait style photograph of eight young women. The translated caption is printed below the photograph in Greek: THE GOVERNING COUNCIL OF GREEK WOMEN, MELBOURNE 1917 gocv, committee, auxilliary

The company was founded by merchant squatter, Isaac Younghusband, originally as Younghusband & Co Ltd and was registered in Victoria on 1 May 1889. The business was engaged in woolbroking and as stock and station agents. In 1897 it became a proprietary company under the name of Younghusband & Co Pty Ltd. Another change in name occurred in 1902 when the company took over the woolbrokers R Goldsbrough Row & Co Pty Ltd and became known as Younghusband Row & Co Pty Ltd. In 1920 the company became known as Younghusband Limited. In September 1971 the company was taken over by Elder Smith Goldsbrough Mort Ltd.Orange and cream wool tag with black printed text. Front: [printed] TO / YOUNGHUSBAND LIMITED / WOOL, SKIN, HIDE AND TALLOW BROKERS / KENSINGTON / Owner / Address / Date Despatched / No. of / Packageswool brokers, kensington, textile industry, wool, skin, tallow, hide, sheep, wool industry, younghusband limited

Copy of a black and white photo of the Long Gully Methodist Cricket Team approx 1946. The team are wearing cricket whites. Three men are wearing dark suits. One man in the centre is holding a shield and two others are holding a cricket bat. Written on the back - L - R Back Row. Colin Neyland, Reg Tyrrell, Ken Harding, Stan Meredith, George Thomas, Bill Rowe, Martin Niemann, George Ellis, Noel Evans. Front Row L - R. Max Grenfell, Jack Werry, Jack Davey, Kieth Higman, (Tim) Harold Salter. Long Gully Methodist Cricket Team approx 1946. Donated by Alan Crossley 1985. The page with the photo and a page with the names are stapled together.bendigo, history, long gully history group, the long gully history group - long gully methodist cricket team approx 1946, cloin neyland, reg tyrrell, ken harding, stan meredith, george thomas bill rowe, martin nieman, george ellis, noel evans, max grenfell, jack werry, jack davey, kieth higman, (tim) harold salter, alan crossley

The Northern District School of Nursing opened in 1950 to address the issues around nurse recruitment, training and education that had previously been hospital based. The residential school was to provide theoretical and in-house education and practical training over three years. The students would also receive practical hands-on training in the wards of associated hospitals. The Northern District School of Nursing operated from Lister House, Rowan Street, Bendigo. It was the first independent school of nursing in Victoria and continued until it closed in 1989.Colour Photo: School 68 Reunion at the Woodhouse Restaurant, Bendigo of 18 nurses on 16/7/2017 to celebrate 50 years since the commencement of PTS. Back Row L-R: Nanette Hamilton (Munro), Patricia Rojo (Sporn), Dawn Oswald (Tarran), Donna Brook (O'Dwyer), Joan Rogers (Matson), Maxine Fergusan (Gray), Suzanne Margan (Gee), Wendy Dillon (Martin), Rhonda Williams (Marshall) Middle Row L-R: Val Davies (Brown), Heather Martin (Pell), Joan Cleven (Voutier), Janet Whelan (Brereton), Sue Lowe (Davies) Front Row L-R: Judi Besley (McAlister), Cheryl Johnson (Winzar), Myrtle Darby (Eickert), Pam Van Kempen (Gray). nurse training, ndsn, lister house, school 68

Coloured photograph of the Maple Street primary School Grade 1-2 G class 1999 and their teacher. Their names are: 3rd Row L-R: Stephanie Barker, Jesse McKune, John Washbourne, Ryan Woods, Rebecca Hooper, Brooke McKindley, Beau Jackson, Matilda Brown, Rodney Reeves, Megan Baird. 2nd Row L-R: Courtney Jackson, Breanna Lea, Jessica Wild, Craig Pearce, Jayden Cardinal, Nicholas Sing, Ben Bacon, Jeremy Hassell. Front Row L-R: Quenton Oibo, Nicole Watts, David Symons, Sigrid Bruhn, Jessica Ansell, Jade Ritchi, Britta Parry, Natalie Thompson, Caitlin Ansell. Teacher: M Gregson. Principal: Mr David Robins.Arthur Reed Photoseducation, primary, golden square laurel st p.s., golden square maple street p.s. collection - photograph - grade 1-2 g 1999, stephanie barker, jesse mckune, john washbourne, ryan woods, rebecca hooper, brooke mckindley, beau jackson, matilda brown, rodney reeves, megan baird, courtney jackson, breanna lea, jessica wild, craig pearce, jayden cardinal, nicholas sing, ben bacon, jeremy hassell, quenton oibo, nicole watts, david symons, sigrid bruhn, jessica ansell, jade ritchi, britta parry, natalie thompson, caitlin ansell, m gregson, mr david robins, arthur reed photos

Coloured photograph of the Maple Street Primary School Grade 5-6 M 1999 class and their teacher. Their names are: 3rd Row L-R: Luke Baird, Andrew Young, Benjamin Gunn, Brendan Crowe, Courtney Smith, Kellie Thompson, Rebecca Jackson. 2nd Row L-R: Zachary Aldous Wade Flannery, Chloe Jackson, Stacey Clark, Monique Anderson, Nathan Owens, Zachary Moore, Katharine Green. Front Row L-R: Daniel Marriner, Jake Knight, Nicholas Horgan, Robert Thatcher, Sarah Humphreys, Ashley Grinham, Sarah Brown, David Casey, Willy Anderson, Matthew Penrose, Sam Sheedy. Teacher: Mr C McClellan. Principal: Mr David Robins.education, primary, golden square laurel st p.s., golden square laurel street p.s. collection - photograph - golden square primary school maple street grade 5-6 m 1999, luke baird, andrew young, benjamin gunn, brendan crowe, courtney smith, kellie thompson, rebecca jackson, zachary aldous wade flannery, chloe jackson, stacey clark, monique anderson, nathan owens, zachary moore, katharine green, daniel marriner, jake knight, nicholas horgan, robert thatcher, sarah humphreys, ashley grinham, sarah brown, david casey, willy anderson, matthew penrose, sam sheedy, mr c mcclellan, mr david robins

Photograph of the Kew - Malvern Tramway Football Club, Premiers 1935. Comprises 20 players, 3 trainers (in white) and 7 men in suits. Names are: Back Row: A Fogarty, L Montgomery, L Shaw, T Fuller, J Callum, P Davey, A Barr, R Tucker, C Bourke (Vice President) Second Row: R Irving (Trainer), L Ryan, H Gillam, E Henderson, J Murphy (President), L Duke, H Hinds, W Benson (Trainer), G Dudgear? Third Row: A Trevendale (Asst Secretary), H Mitchell, A Westcott, J Doherty (Vice Captain) C Peterson (Captain), C Jobe, R Maxwell, R Davidson Front Row: H Fry, C Ryder (Treasuer), D Tait. In front are two cups and a presentation shield. Photo by Glen Studios.Yields information about the members of the Kew Malvern Tramway Football clubs. Photograph mounted on heavy card with red colours painted onto the jerseys and socks.On rear in ink "Great Grandfather Clive Alfred Michael Peterson (Bill), Born 10-7-1899, Died 27-10-1975"tramways, sports, kew depot, football, malvern depot

Donated by Mary Karney who was related to Bryant West. Her mother was an Oswin.Black & White photograph of the West family mounted on brown cardboard. Back Row L - R 1. Alfred West, 2. Edward West, 3. Harry Thomas West, 4. Harmon West, 5. Charlie West, 6. William West. Front Row L - R. 1. Albert West, 2. Lizzie Bennell (West), 3. Alice McDonald (West), 4. ?? 5. Fanny Morrison (West), 6. Emily Lock (West).the west family phillip island, west family, mary karney

This photograph belonged to the Lock family before being acquired by the Museum.Group including the West & Lock families. Back row (L-R) Alfred West, Edward West, Harry Thomas West, Harmon West, Charlie West, William West. Front row (L-R) Albert West, Lizzie Bemmell (nee West), Alice McDonald (nee West),???? Fanny Morrison (nee West), Emily Lock (nee West) The photo used is the same as described above - 3rd lady between Alice & Fanny not named.local history, photography, west family, black & white photograph, lock family

According to the donor these image copies were used in an exhibition, and distributed at the conclusion. Mounted black and white photograph on strawboard showing the Scarsdale Relief Fund Ladies Committee. Back Row (L-R): Mrs Maguire, Miss Christie, Miss Bennett, Miss McLeish, Miss Walker, Mrs Jamieson. Centre Row (L-R) Miss CLarkson, Miss M. Stoker, Miss Bird, Miss Clarkson, Miss Porter, Miss N. Carnegie, Miss Matheson, Miss N. Black. Kneeling: Miss Ritchie, Miss McLeish.scarsdale relief fund ladies committee, mrs maguire, miss christie, miss bennett, miss mcleish, miss walker, mrs jamieson, miss clarkson, miss m. stoker, miss bird, miss porter, miss n. carnegie, miss matheson, miss n. black., miss ritchie, flowers, wildflowers, women

Coloured photograph of the 1987 Netball - Grade 5 Team. The girls are wearing yellow Golden Square t shirts and dark blue skirts. Two girls in the centre of the front row are holding a netball between them. Their names are:- Back Row (L - R) Lisa Anastasi, Bree Ramsay, Mrs. Saunders (Coach), Tracey Saunders, Laura Metcalf. Front Row (L - R) Candice Reid, Wendy Chan, Angela Cook, Megan Baxter.education, primary, golden square laurel st p.s., golden square laurel street p.s. collection - photograph - 1987 netball - grade 5, lisa anastasi, bree ramsay, mrs saunders (coach), tracy saunders, laura metcalf, candice reid, wendy chan, angela cook, megan baxter

Óriginal photo taken by Lorraine Studios, provided for scanning by Lorraine LARKIN at the Clark St Night, PMHPS meeting 22 Feb 2010. Lorraine identified the social club as The Glee Club. Subsequently Jim POWER visited older people in Port and was able to idenitify most of the men and determine that it is the Port United Social Club that came after The Glee Club. Back Row L-R: Bill WILSON, Brian NICHOLS, Alf EARP, Eddie McLAUGHLIN, Ron AMY, Lance 'Ox' EARL, Len CLARK, John MURPHY (CMTEE) Middle Row L-R: Charlie ROWE, Mick AMY, J GARLAND, Graham 'Nuts' NUGENT, George LOWE, Wally LOCKHART, Ray AMY, Oscar ROUSE, Tommy GLEESON (CMTEE) Front Row L-R: John O'KEEFFE (CMTEE), Charlie COSHAM (VP), Kevin 'Wookie' LAVENY (TREAS.), Bob FORWART (PRES.), Harold 'Dags' BROWN (SEC.), Harry MITCHELL (ASS. SEC.), Jock MORRISON (CMTEE) Charlie BATTERN B&W photo of a Port United Social Club showing 25 men arranged in 3 rows. Man in second row, 4th from right is identified on reverse of original as Lorraine LARKIN's (nee LOCKHART) father Original plus two photocopies with namessocieties clubs unions and other organisations, port united social club, wally lockhart, brian nichols, alf earp, eddie mclaughlin, ron amy, len clark, john murphy, charlie rowe, mick amy, graham 'nuts' nugent, george lowe, ray amy, oscar rouse, tommy gleeson, charlie cosham, kevin 'wookie' lavery, bob forward, harold 'dags' brown, harry mitchell, jock morrison, charlie batten, john o'keefe

Title and List of Band Members. "38th BATTALION, NORTHERN VICTORIAN REGIMENT BAND 1955" Back row L. to R.: J. GRIFFITHS, ........... ............, L. FRANK, E. STANLEY, K. HOCKING. Second back row: J. DORBIE, J. BOLAND, A. CARTER. Third back row: A. SWIFT (BAND MASTER), L. PHAIR, W. ALLEN, A. TRAYES. Third front row: I. DEAUROGH, R. TREVASKIS, M. McDONALD, A. BISHOP, R. SWIFT, R. MITCHELL. Second front row: N. MILLAR, N. MARCHINGO, L. ELLIS, M. LAMBERT, R. CHRISTIE. Front row: H. MEEK, A. THOMPSON, J. RIPPER, G. WILKINSON, F. GILBERT, V. GREGOR, K. JINKS - DRUM MAJOR"Photograph, black and white on paper, a group photograph of a Regimental Band on parade, standing on grass. Cloth insignia - red background with white embroidered lettering above photograph. List of band members - black ink type written on white card below photograph. Mount - double mounted, exterior dark red colour cardboard, inner cream colour cardboard. Frame - timber with brown varnish finish, glass front and cardboard backing.Cloth Insignia Lettering "NORTHERN VICTORIAN REGIMENT".passchendaele barracks trust, framed accessories, photograph, 38th battalion, regiment band

German POW's: Back row - Gerhard Zirkler, Kurt Zimmermann, Adolf Wilkie, Helmut Hempel, Siegfried Scheffzouk, Ludwig Gernoth. Front row - l-r - Manfred Mueller, Herbert Morr, Wolfgang Neugebauer and Gustav Pohlig.Black and white photograph of 6 stand and 4 seated POW's in front of hut they are in. The number 171 centre frontkurt zimmermann, gerhard zirkler, adolf wilkie, helmut hempel, siegfried scheffzouk, ludwig gernoth, manfred mueller, herbert morr, wolfgang neugebauer, gustav pohlig, camp 13, internees

Coloured photograph of the 1987 Netball - Grade 6 Team and their Coach. The girls are wearing yellow Golden Square t shirts and dark blue skirts. Two girls in the front row are holding a netball between them. The names are:- Back Row (L - R) Katrina Theologitis, Melissa Goodwin, Kylie Begg, Diane McGuane (Coach), Sonya Webster, Sheree McGuane, Nadine Talbot. Front Row (L - R) Sharon Metcalfe, Angela Downes, Cherie Freeman, Rebecca Metcalfe.education, primary, golden square laurel st p.s., golden square laurel street p.s. collection - photograph - 1987 netball - grade 6, katrina theologitis, melissa goodwin, kylie begg, dianne mcguane (coach), sonya webster, sheree mcguane, nadine talbot, sharon metcalfe, angela downes, cherie freeman, rebecca metcalfe

Coloured photograph of the Regional Athletics Team 1987. The children are wearing yellow Golden Square t shirts. One is wearinga plain yellow t shirt.They are also wearing dark blue or light blue shorts or track pants. The names of the children are:- Back Row (L - R) Theo Gouskos, Tracey Saunders, Oliver White, Laura Metcalf, Sonya Webster, David Styles. Front Row (L - R) Paul Bennett, David Saunders, Travis Breheny, Jamie Bennett.education, primary, golden square laurel st p.s., golden square laurel street p.s. collection - photograph regional athletics team 1987, theo gouskos, tracey saunders, oliver white, laura metcalf, sonya webster, david styles, paul bennett, david saunders, travis breheny, jamie bennett

Coloured photo of Workers on Open Day 2001 in Local History Room: L-R Front Row: Gordon Keene, Barbara McColl, Joan Henwood: 2nd Row: Elizabeth Ligeti, Judith Fry, Barbara Keene, Barbara Gardiner, Margaret Skey, Frances Warren, Valda Arrowsmith: 3rd Row: Ivan Holt, June Venouras, Magdalena Bognor, Back Row: Geoff Saunders, Bill Gray, Peter Simmenauer, Robert Smith, Barbara Rogalski (Background: Liz Ogden).mccoll, barbara, henwood, joan, keene, gordon, ligeti, elizabeth, fry, judith, gardiner, skey, margaret, warren, frances, arrowsmith, valda, holt, ivan, bognor, magdalena, gray, bill, simmenauer, peter, smith, robert, rogalski, ogden, liz, nunawading & district historical society, heritage festival 2001, ventouras june, saunders, geoff

Black & white copy of a photograph Mitcham Football Club member posing for 1921 Premiers photograph. L to R back row - Mr Lee (Time Keeper), Malone, M; Sellars, M; Haliday, B (pres); ----- Harding,;------. 2nd Row - Neilson, W; Sewart, E; Gilcrist, Paddy; George, Mick; Alley, Nigger; Dempster, G; Front Row - Dunne, Arthur; Brown, Ted; Peterson, Fred; Kennett, Wally; Hayes, Lorrie; Barelli.L; Barelli, Ned.mitcham football club, dempster, g, lee. mr, neilson, w, dunne, arthur, malone, m, sewart, e, brown, ted, sellars, m, gilchrist, paddy, fred, halliday, b, george, mick, kennett, wally, harding, alley, nigger, hayes, lorrie, barelli, l, barelli, ned, peterson

Coloured photo of the Nunawading Council cricket team for a match against Box Hill Council in March 1968 Back row, L-R: Peate, Roger, Cr; Goldsborough, Owen, Cr; Jane, Ted, town clerk; McCall, C.R. Cr; Willis, Jim, Cr; Phillips, Ritchie, Cr Front row, L-R: Yates, Don; Bade, Stan; Sewart, Bill, city engineer; Deacon, Kevin, building surveyor; Nelson, Gerry, rate collector; Cartwright, Des.cricket, city of nunawading, peate, roger, goldsborough, owen, jane, ted, mccall, c.r., willis, jim, willis charles l, phillips, ritchie, yates, don, bade, stan, sewart, bill, deacon, kevin, nelson, gerry, cartwright, des