Cultural history of Australia, covering aboriginal society and white society to 1988.Paperback, 317 p,. black and white photographs. 2nd edition.australia history

Given to John Rickard by a Luffman family member. Sandi Pullman provided digitised copy. Appears in Vol 1 of History Of The Wallaby Club by Alfred Hart (1944)C. B. Luffmann standing with R. G Hyndman, H. H. Chapman, F. G. Duffy, J. Mather, J. V. McEacharn, L. Henry, H. B. Higgins and G. A. Syme outside the Grand Hotel, Yarra Glen. Members of the Wallaby Club (a walking club.)charles bogue luffmann, wallaby club, walking club, principal, yarra glen

Portrait of J Rickard 1872 of Coach Factorystawell business industry

Georgina (Ina) Higgins graduated with first full time female students . Top marks.Digitised Studio photograph of Ina (Frances Georgina Watts) Higgins taken in Falks Studio , Melbourne C. 1895. Ina Higgins was one of the first female students to graduate with a Diploma from Burnley Horticultural College in 1902.female students, ina higgins, georgina higgins, diploma

ron moore, bill lumb, ron martin, frank sutton, roy sutton, david jenkins, bruce lang, colin sylvia, john reid, ken mckersie, pat mcfarlane, john rickard, kevin stevenson, bill fisher, harry spruce, don gray, education

Workers in Front of Coach Factory Wheelwright & Black Smith (John Rickard) Cnr. Main Street and Wimmera Streetstawell business industry

Photograph of Students of Navarre Primary School 1940Back ------, Les Hannett, Jack Driscoll?, ---- 2nd Back -----, Jean Rickard, Viva Smale, Val Blake, Pat Clinnick, Eileen Moschetti, John Rickard 2nd Front ----, Marie Clinnick, -----, John Emmerson, ---- Front ----, Tom Driscoll, ----, Lindsay Smalleducation, students

This journal provides the reader with glimpses of the adventures and hardships of a seaman's life. Many of the stories are of sailing ships. PS Etona was built in 1898 at Milang, South Australia as a missionary church steamer for the Church of England. The Etona's run was from Mannum, South Australia, where she was based up to Renmark. As churches were built in river tower she was no longer required and in 1912 she was sold to Captain Arch Conner who used her as a fishing steamer at Boundary Bend for many years. She was brought out of retirement during the 1956 floods to do trips up the Murrumbidgee River. She was eventually bought by interest in Echuca and restoration was commenced in 1962. The Etona, now fully restored with her original steam engine can now be seen moored along side the historic wharf at Echuca.Contributes to our knowledge of the importance of shipping and places on record those stories of the sea which would otherwise be lost.Contents Foreword - G. F. Tilley - 5 The "Etona" - H. Vaughan Evans - 6 Editorial - Russell Hemingway - 11 The Old Lady Of The River - Captain J. Gaby - 19 "Takapuna" Interlude On A Moonless Night - E. Harper - 31 Maritime Museum of Tasmania - J. Miller - 34 The Confederate Raiders "Florida" and "Alabama" - A. R. Osmond - 36 "Ease After War . . . Doth Greatly Please" - Captain W. J. Cowling - 44 Mutiny At Sea - P. R. Wilkins - 49 War Service In The Indian Ocean - H. Mossman - 51 Cape Horn - Captain Eino Koivistoinen - 57 "Tragedy of Loss" - Jonathan john - 61 The End of The "Queen Elizabeth" - Bradley J. Newell - 62 London Could Cope With Him - Dr. Stanislaw Bernatt - 68 Three Ships Canals - N. S. Smith - 69 The Loss Of The "Eyoshi Maru" - Captain M. B. Glasier - 77 A Small Consignment But Valuable - J. B. Hodgson - 85 Lowden and The "Candida" - D. R. Rickard - 87 "Lauriston" Sails On - F. W. Rudd - 89 Confusion of Identities, "Young Australian", "Young Australia" and "Carl" - J. M. MacKenzie - 93 Rescue from "Clarissa", 1957 - Captain Leif Asklund - 97 Journey Home - Captain W. E. Eastoe - 100 Disaster At Blanket Bay - J. K. Loney - 104 The End Of The "Antiope" - Captain Bruce Bell - 106 The "Great Britain" - C. E. Bonwick - 108 Search The Coast To Shark Bay - Rear-Admiral Charles Adair U.S.N. - 110 The "Polly Woodside" Family - Rev. H. W. Coffey - 121 Book Reviews - 123sailing ships, steamships, shipping, seafaring life, shiplovers' society of victoria, dog watch, murray river, paddlesteamers, echuca, etona, ps etona

In 1958 the Ballarat Teachers' College moved to a new site in Gillies Street. The 1958 Students' Representative Council were M. Hines, B. Rickard, D. Eldridge, N. Turnball, B. English, K. O'Neill, P. Burgess, M. Almeida, ed Doney, J. Rae, P. Wise, W. Crocker. The 1958 staff were J. Bourke, A. Linton, Ed Doney, S. McKaskill, Howard Pattenden, D. Chandler, A. Stafford, Bob Croft, Arch Cuthbertson, R. Reed, A. Sonsee, J. Lacy, F. Ryan, C. Rodger, Mary Egan, J. Hill, Tom Turner, Mavis Canty, J. Blair, E. Walpole, Monica MillerSoft covered booklet of 48 pages. Articles include: Teaching Rounds, Art and Craft, Victoria Street Hostel, Gillies Street Hostel, Grampians Trip, Camp St Hostel Beaufort House, Spring is Spring, A Windy Night, What are Sculptors? Photographs include: Aerial photograph of the new college in Gillies Street, Students' Representative Council, staff photo, class photosSigned on frank cover 'Margaret Brown'. Signed in back 'Verna Rogers Natimuk' "Lorna G. Anderson Gold House Riddells B.T.C. 1958" "E. Joan Bates Lakeside Murtoa Vic"ballarat teachers' college, kevin o'neill, barry withers, v. la franchi, john teschendorr, victoria street hostel, student residences, gillies street hostel, beaufort house, sturt street hostel, camp street hostel, lois hayne, verna rogers, joan bates, lorna anderson, margaret brown, gillies street campus, tom turner, p.r. burgess, bob croft, howard pattenden, alan sonsee, mavis canty, mary egan, jack roach, w.h. ellwood prize, michael long, kevin o'neil, grampians excursion

The Pioneers of Ballarat may have been created to the Ballarat Old Colonists' Association and the reunions held by the early Ballarat pioneers. The dates given after the pioneers time is their date of arrival into the colony.Photograph showing numerous portraits of men who were considered Pioneers of Ballarat as complied by R. Walker and produced by Chuck Vice Regal Photo. The men depicted are: J. Smith; W. Gay; W. Downie; G. Goddard; B. Varcoe; A.F. Seidal; Loius Balhausen; J. McKenzie; William irwin; M. Box; Thomas Bath; James Oddie; William Tulloch; J.W. Graham; J. Ward; W. Curnow; R.J. Binder; F.J.L. Turner; W. Eyres; C.A. Welch; B. Welch; G. Welch; J. Lake; H. Smith; J. King; R.T. Wreford; Ernest Balhausen; J. Ward; T. Trengrove; J. Truswell; J. Taylor; W. Seeley; J.P. Murray; Hon. David Ham; Andrew Anderson; E. McCartney; J.H. Smith; Joseph Edward Cowley; A. Jones; W.H. Furness; F.N. Martin; James Anderson; G. Becher; James Meek; T. Hawkins; P. Drummond; C. Barker; J. Malcolm; R. Brown; G. Tupper; A. Rose; W. Pinkerton; A. Clinton; A. Sheppard, F.C. Downes; J.A. Blight; J. Blight; T. Blight; J. Richardson; C.W. Toy; W.C. Elder; E. Towl; S. Walker; W.P. Martin; J.T Langley; J.A. Abramowitch; R, Allan; S.W. Woodward; G. Hunt; J. Bishop; F.L. Graham; R. Graham; W. A.G. Fraser; J. Davies; J. Paterson; B.G. Tucker; E. McElroy; W.H. Burton, T.C. Coates; J. Williams; J.P. Roberts; J. Ritchie; T.W. White; J. F. Harvey; Natale D'Angri; D. McCallum; W. Chisholm; P. Kohl; J. Moncrief; J.P. Marshall; R.U. Nicholls; G.L. Holthouse; C. Gray; W. Gale; James Long; Theo Williams; J.R. Ellsworth; W. Scott; Henry Josephs; D. Cooke; William Little; T.H. Thompson; E. Morey; J.G. McDonald; C.C. Shoppee; G. Douglas; W. H. Ellis; W. Hicks; J. Cameron; W. B. Koppers; F. Marendez; G. Herrmann; J. Kelly; E. Jermyn; P. Murray; P. Gay; D. McNaught; T.D. Wanliss; G. Lord; H. Glenny; J. Trethowan; J. Blandford; J. Goujon; W. Coad; A. Colliver; J. Nunn; J. Munro; W.C. Burbidge; J. Jarvie; C. Ferguson; C. Morris; J. Russell; J. Phillips; J. Coghlan; R. Clark; Thomas Stoddart; M. Wasley; B. Retallack; John Reid; M.C. Carey; P. Maloney; E. Newman; J. Lamb; J,. Pryor; J. Gibson; James Mitchell; J. Rowe; James Vallins; A. Roxburgh; A. Cant; O. Thomas; J.Y. McDonald; W.M. Acheson; A. Jack; R. Gibbings; E.W. Chamberlain; J.H. Ellsworth; J. Falconer; G.G. Lorimer; James M. Bickett; T. Sayle; Andrew McIntyre; W. Hambley; K. Coutts; T. Muir; R. Scott; G. Leach; E. Richards; R. Hearn; J. Hughan; D. Miliani; E. Parr; J. T. Irving; W.G. Williams; J. Marks; J. Darby; T. Ray; D. McKenzie; James Robson; J. Robson; J. Moore; J. Murphy; Robert M. Serjeant; C. Ford; E.E. Campbell; P. Folland; P.J. Rickard; A. McVitty; B. Angwin; J.T. Sleep; M.P. Whiteside; W. Curtis; H. Crisp; E. Major; R. Pearce; J. Waller; G. Waller; G. Abrams; J. McIntyre; J. Johnston; W. Johnston; W. Taylor; J. Knoth; J. Davey; G. Smith; N. Kent; E.O. Witherden; J.B. Cathcart; W.H. Harrow; G. Evans; L. Ure; W.T. Glen; T. Dickinson; D. Hughes; J. Strickland; J. Hillman; E. Jackson; R.J. Walker; D. Gunn; R.J. Gullan; T. McManamy; A. Gray; James trembath; W. Porter; J. Showman; C. Walker; J. Bowman; W.B. McDonald; P. Jago; J. Stout pioneers, ballarat, chuck, chuck vice regal photo, r. walker, ballarat pioneers, pioneers of ballarat, j. smith, w. gay, w. downie, g. goddard, b. varcoe, a.f. seidal, loius balhausen, j. mckenzie, william irwin, m. box, thomas bath, james oddie, william tulloch, j.w. graham, j. ward, w. curnow, r.j. binder, f.j.l. turner, w. eyres, c.a. welch, b. welch, g. welch, j. lake, h. smith, j. king, r.t. wreford, ernest balhausen, t. trengrove, j. truswell, j. taylor, w. seeley, j.p. murray, hon. david ham, andrew anderson, e. mccartney, j.h. smith, joseph edward cowley, a. jones, w.h. furness, f.n. martin, james anderson, g. becher, james meek, t. hawkins, p. drummond, c. barker, j. malcolm, r. brown, g. tupper, a. rose, w. pinkerton, a. clinton, a. sheppard, f.c. downes, j.a. blight, j. blight, t. blight, j. richardson, c.w. toy, w.c. elder, e. towl, s. walker, w.p. martin, j.t langley, j.a. abramowitch, r, allan, s.w. woodward, g. hunt, j. bishop, f.l. graham, r. graham, w. a.g. fraser, j. davies, j. paterson, b.g. tucker, e. mcelroy, w.h. burton, t.c. coates, j. williams, j.p. roberts, j. ritchie, t.w. white, j. f. harvey, natale d'angri, d. mccallum, w. chisholm, p. kohl, j. moncrief, j.p. marshall, r.u. nicholls, g.l. holthouse, c. gray, w. gale, james long, theo williams, j.r. ellsworth, w. scott, henry josephs, d. cooke, william little, t.h. thompson, e. morey, j.g. mcdonald, c.c. shoppee, g. douglas, w. h. ellis, w. hicks, j. cameron, w. b. koppers, f. marendez, g. herrmann, j. kelly, e. jermyn, p. murray, p. gay, d. mcnaught, t.d. wanliss, g. lord, h. glenny, j. trethowan, j. blandford, j. goujon, w. coad, a. colliver, j. nunn, j. munro, w.c. burbidge, j. jarvie, c. ferguson, c. morris, j. russell, j. phillips, j. coghlan, r. clark, thomas stoddart, m. wasley, b. retallack, john reid, m.c. carey, p. maloney, e. newman, j. lamb, j, . pryor, j. gibson, james mitchell, j. rowe, james vallins, a. roxburgh, a. cant, o. thomas, j.y. mcdonald, w.m. acheson, a. jack, r. gibbings, e.w. chamberlain, j.h. ellsworth, j. falconer, g.g. lorimer, james m. bickett, t. sayle, andrew mcintyre, w. hambley, k. coutts, t. muir, r. scott, g. leach, e. richards, r. hearn, j. hughan, d. miliani, e. parr, j. t. irving, w.g. williams, j. marks, j. darby, t. ray, d. mckenzie, james robson, j. robson, j. moore, j. murphy, robert m. serjeant, c. ford, e.e. campbell, p. folland, p.j. rickard, a. mcvitty, b. angwin, j.t. sleep, m.p. whiteside, w. curtis, h. crisp, e. major, r. pearce, j. waller, g. waller, g. abrams, j. mcintyre, j. johnston, w. johnston, w. taylor, j. knoth, j. davey, g. smith, n. kent, e.o. witherden, j.b. cathcart, w.h. harrow, g. evans, l. ure, w.t. glen, t. dickinson, d. hughes, j. strickland, j. hillman, e. jackson, r.j. walker, d. gunn, r.j. gullan, t. mcmanamy, a. gray, james trembath, w. porter, j. showman, c. walker, j. bowman, w.b. mcdonald, p. jago, j. stout, john smith

Large ledger with marbled cover. It is a Ballarat School of Mines Rough Cash Book. The books list payments of students fees, assay fees, salaries and wages, guage testing, treatment of ores. Some student names outlined in keywords. cash book, ballarat school of mines cash book, assay fees, guage testing, treatment of ores, gold selling, student fees, a.p.wood, c. craddock, l. craddock, w.h. callister, c. fleahy, j.friend, edward horwood, james leckie, a. peacock, hilary dowling, f. horsfall, frank dalton, arthur howard, charles fryer, henry clark, r. allan, w. barton, r. mckay, wolliam albert, patrick anderson, joseph rickard, n. kavanagh, percy miller, h.e. gronow, david hamilton, andrew hamilton, cyril mctaggart, ernest lumley, fred bicknell, herbert bicknell, charles fleay, d.c. urquhart, r. clark, victor mckay, ralph mckay, j.b. robinson, r. mann, thomas de gruchy, j.r.m. blight, h. valentine, james galbally, a. mcd. ritchie, j. sutherland, h. herbert, p.a. pratt, w.m. williams, g. cornell, d. lilley, elsie cutter, g. bicknell, john g. brittain, f.l. cooper, g.s. hepburn, karl noone, a. hugelmann, h. heath, w.a. mason, thomas bradley, charles e. hill, r.r. mitchell, a. phillipson, thomas davies, l. lewin, william gilbert, a.e. loveland, c.r. mccracken, george lawri, h.b. cooke, john usher, d.m. lilley, james holt, j. kenna, charles lund, j. o'dwyer, charles quaddock, william e. figgis, j.k. sim, w. heinz, willis franklin, roy booth, f. herman, george christie, g. davenport, edward richards, j.f. murphy, i. holmes, f. sior, i sim, w. caldwell, james leggo, g. nightingale, rupert king, h.j. semmens, h.r. kofoed, theo holmes, h.b. waldron, w. bell, j. curnow, j.f. d'oliveyra, w. bolitho, m. bade, e. gregory, g. hopwood, j. o'bern, a. robin, a.e. tandy, a.d. galloway, j.f. boyce, n. buley, f.w. calaby, a. elshang, a.e. ebbels, j. leggo, r.e. holdsworth, k. thiessen, m. metz, l. bult, w. clift, e. bonwick, h. koefed, h.j. saw, j.l. sim, e. wardle, n.c. le gerche, e. crossley, b. humffray, l. blick, a.e. burgess, g. lides, p.f. browne, f.a. richardson, h. dahlenburg, miles webster, l. nott, j.d. brokenshire, beet wai, n. la gerche, e.m. boyer, h.g. hawkesworth, o. williams, f. abel, w.e. eyres, c. rawlings, a.j. robin, p. grenfell, f. eustice, j. brokenshire, w. mccartney, herbert stephenson, g. ditchburn, c. steele, f.j. webb, h.o.e. bieske, o. mccabe, art library, ballarat east school fees, a. miles, m. growcott, a. gent, arthur gates, ida farmer, gertrude bailey, d. brigstiche, d. bonan, a.a. buley, a.h. lilburne, a.b. benoit, l.e. waldie, i. dilena, harold herbert, ballarat technical art school

Two typed copies of notes titled 'Theatre on the Goldfields' by Mr. Frank Cusack. Notes mention the early theatres on the Goldfields, the actors, actresses and singers, owners and places where the theatres were. Also mentioned are some of the plays that were performed.entertainment, theatre, bendigo, theatre on the goldfields, mr frank cusack, john hawkins, bulwer lytton, 'lady of lyons', the theatre royal, gregg, yates, stark, carncross's royal exchange restaurant, the argus, the casion, charles thatcher, burton's theatre, c h rignold, george rignold, royal victoria theatre, the princess, the criterion, walsh and fawcett, george fawcett rowe, fawcett rowe, lola montez, henry coleman, madame carilly, the advertiser, victoria reef, william kelly, g v brooke, burralls assembly rooms, nicholls assembly rooms, royal hotel, shamrock concert hall, bendigo hotel, billy heffernan, john crowely, mrs hancock, miss urie, m langlaise, sarah flower, madame caradine, thatcher the inimitable, greville, joe small, fanny young, frank varley, hugh anderson, porter's stars of the australian stage and screen, abbott, lyceum theatre, mr & mrs robe, robert heir, g w daniels, bendigo histrionic club, carrick club, 'the old curiosity shop', benjamin farjeon or b l farjeon, louis quatorze, robert younge, woolridge's eagle saloon, fry's troupe, coleman's rotunda theatre, old house, rainer's ethipian serenaders, jacobs, mrs macgowan, the golden age, foos & fitzgerald, madame arnati, gibson, pearsons harmonic hall, london hotel, little joe and the comical wonder, pick and shovel, united states hotel, john hunter kerr, marsh troupe, lyster opera co, miss avonia jones, cobb & co, billy heffernan, shamrock hotel, st james hall, crowley, royal princess theatre, offenbach's duchess of gerolstein, james cassius williamson, maggie moore, hal porter, grattan riggs co, garner, musgrove, george rignold, bland holt, harry rickards, london gaiety co, alfred dampier, dan barry co, harold stephen, coghill brothers, paine, waterman & balfe, the australian bijou opera co, williamson & musgrove's royal opera co, nellie stewart, the alfred dampier co, ward lyons dramatic co, george darrell, william elton, charles arnold's co, masonic theatre, the capital), the bendigo dramatic society, the bendigo glee club, the bendigo amateur dramatic club, bendigo orchestra, bendigo liedertafel, alice crawford, wilson barrett co, ernest toy, emily dyason, gertrude alger, william murdoch, a c bartleman, madame benda, amy and eileen castles, erna mueller, madame bertha rossow, e a bindley, kate samuels, jan kubelik

Album - Methodist Centenary 1976 Album 14 42 - 493238 - Methodist Church 3238a - Plaque with F.J Cato's Name 3238b - On Horse Rev Max Spry ( In Period Dress), Angie Richards, Alan Pickering 3238c - L to R: Alf Hurnall, Rev. max Spry, Allan Coward, Joe Edwards, Alan Howells, John Glover?, Cliff Davies, Rob McKay. 3238d - Rev. Max Spry, Allan Coward, Joe edwrds, Alan Howels. Cliff Davies, Rob McKay, Eric Jude. 3238e - L to R: John Glover, Rob McKay, recv. Max Spry. 3238f - RE-Enactment Meeting, Methodist Church. Cliff Davies, John Glover, Rob McKay, MaxSpry, Allan Coward, Eric Jude. 3238g - Lil Membry, Dr. Una Porter (Daughter of Fred Cato), Kath McKay. 3238h - Lto R: Rev Max Spry, Alan Coward, Eric Jude, ? , Alf Hurnall. 3238i - Cliff Davies, Meredith Spry. Ray & Kathleen Rickard 3238j - Ivy & Mary Moulden, Andrew Spry & Warren Rickard 3238k - Alan & Gewn Howells, Ivy & Mary Moulden, Alan Howells & Gewn Hunter. 3238l - Jean Langsford, Alf Hurnall, Dawn Scott. 3238m - Mrs. Jean Cox, Edith Cox. 3238n - Gwen Hunter, Mother of Bev Spry. 3238o - Owen Lorensene, Rev. Max Spry 3238p - Campfire 3238q Sluce 3238r - Miner's Tent. stawell

Heatherlie Quarry. Historical Society members listening to Janet WithamColour Photograph of Stawell Historical Society Members visit to Hetherlie Quarry 1997. Ian Jackson, Gary Middleton, Pat Cook, Betty Jackson, Don Rickard, Janet Witham, Marie Cox, Marie Val Leeuwen, Carmel Loats, Thea Tucker, Clive Cawthorn, Wal Perry, Lorna Harris, Eddie Haris & John Van Leeuwen ( Blue Coat)stawell grampians industry

A photograph of a timber honor board with gold text indicating the names of the from the Rubicon Street Sunday School who enlisted for service during World War One. rubicon street sunday school honor roll, rubicon street methodist sunday school, a. aird, j. aird, g. barnett, a. black, h. braidie, a. bridson, s. bridson, w. bridson, h. brittain, w. brittain, s. caddy, w. clarke, e. collins, f. dignam, n. flockhart, f. graham, c. gunn, w. gunn, l. hearn, w. hicks, p. holloway, r. holloway, arnold holst, f. giffen holst, john holst, e. hooker, j. humphreys, p. james, a. jarvis, g. jarvis, w. jenkins (2), a. jolly, c. jolly, g. jolly, j. kauffman, o. kauffman, p. jenkins - o. jennings, g. lawry, f. mayall, d. mcgrath, j. mckenzie, w. oakes, p. renfree, e. rickard, h. robertson, f. robinson, l. rowe, t. rowe, w. rowe, c. rowsell, l. rowsell, r. rosewall, h. rumler, c. sheers, s. sheers, j. smallman, o. smallman, a. smith, c. smith, h. smith, n. smith, h. straight, h. stanley, r. stanley, w. thompson (2), a. vale, s. vial, j. wearmouth, j. willaton, t. wills, h. williams, h.s. williams, m. williams, d. drummond, h. drummond, j. drummond, r. proctor, p. patten, h. pengelly, world war one, honur board

Group Portrait of Stawell Fire Brigade Members in Uniform 1920-1926 BACK ROW: L-R W. STEWART, N. FRASER, H. GRAY, J MADDOCKS (EX. CAPT), ????? SECOND ROW: L-R S.. ROSS,, R. HUGHES , T. DADSWELL, ?, ABRAHAMS , W. COLLINS, ?????? , A. OLIVER (EX. Capt.) THIRD ROW: L-R W. WILLIAMS, W. JONES , W. THOMLINSON , W. RICKARD, R. BROWN, J. BROWN (EX. Capt.) ,T. GOODSON, T. REA . E. GRAY (EX. Capt) , W. EARLE FOURTH ROW: L-R M. CHELLEW, J.H. CLARKE , I. COOK , ???????????? , ??????????????? G. BARNES , W. A. WHITEHEAD , T.S. MARSHALL (Chief Officer) FRONT ROW: L-R JOHN MARTIN , E. CLOUGH (EX. Capt), R. K. CHAPMAN (EX. Capt) , J. NEYLAN (Capt.) , H.H CHAPMAN, P. LEDGAR (EX. Capt), F. CROUCH *NEYLAN was in the brigade from 1922 to 1926Black & white photograph of a large group of men. Some are dressed in uniform.. Large tree, and other men in the backgroundR.K. Chapman !920's Stawell Fire Brigade with older members. J. Neylan Captain R.K. Chapman Lieutenantstawell

howard rickard, keith beitzel, stan walters, jack mcinnes, ? sylvia, alf sylvia, ken lindsay, john walder, ted hudson, jim martin